DJ Wolf

I'm about to reply to someone who posts as ADMIN. Need I say more?

While you use disjointed logic to evade issues I really hope you stop replying to my posts. Don't get me wrong, I love a good debate but when you lose your temper you lose the argument and you do that a lot, don't you?

You did "call me out" on the Bali 9 issue and stated that the Bali Police didn't need a capital case against Schapelle because they had the Bali 9. Since Schapelle was arrested on the 8th of November, 2004 and the Bali 9 didn't even go to Indonesia until early April of 2005 and were arrested on the 17th of April, 2005, then you are obviously mistaken. I could call you an idiot or a moron but that's not me. I'm not rude, like you.

This statement was made in anger because it is not logical - it's not even important. Schapelle's exact statement was, "As soon as I opened the zipper.. Whoah.. (shakes head and screws up nose) you could smell it... it was... it stank" ... Liz Hayes: You could smell the marijuana? Schapelle: "oh yeah" - 60 minutes interview.

Does this sound like the person behind her might have smelled it? Sounds right to me... But let's look at this ADMIN. How do you know the person behind her didn't smell it? Did you ask them? Because the gist of what I got from Schapelle and what I was trying to communicate was that it was a very obvious smell. Now, smell travels. How the hell could Schapelle have smelled it and not the people around her? How does that work ADMIN? Sure, smell dissapates but not when it's that concentrated. So what are you actually disagreeing with? That smell travels? Are you serious?

So you are Admin of a Corby support site and you don't know Rose made that comment? Actually, I thought everyone knew and what Murray has supplied has been cleaned up as well. I know that somewhere is a more definitive reference to the event.

ROFLMAO... What's the difference? Whether Schapelle deliberately took the marijuana to Bali or baggage handlers sent it there, neither is a glowing report on Australian airport security. So they didn't sacrifice Schapelle to hide poor security, did they? What they did do is allow Mathew Moore to claim that the streets of Kuta were flowing with Aussie Gold without making a peep. So unless Moore was suggesting that it got there by Australian fishing boats, there lack of comment suggests that they didn't care ENOUGH about the public perception of airport security to say, "The drugs never came from Australia!!!"

This was my fault - the word 'from' was a typo and should have been 'in'. That is, "the cut in the bag was made after the flight arrived IN Bali" not FROM Bali. Having said that it is clear this is personal for you.

I'd like to ask you a question: without some kind of investigation or enquiry instigated by either the KRK or the Australian voters or both, how do you think we can best help Schapelle?

admin

What the hell does that mean. I am a supporter who runs this site. I am entitled to my opinion.

You love a good debate that is very clear to me. You love a good debate so much you make up most of what you debate. Clever.

I havent lost any argument. You let me know when you have that article showing me where Roseleigh suggests the Bali Police planted the pot. You show me that. Until then it is just another one of your outright lies.


This statement was made in anger because it is not logical - it's not even important. Schapelle's exact statement was, "As soon as I opened the zipper.. Whoah.. (shakes head and screws up nose) you could smell it... it was... it stank" ... Liz Hayes: You could smell the marijuana? Schapelle: "oh yeah" - 60 minutes interview.

Here is your exact quote. . To me this quote suggests Schapelle said other people around her smelt the pot. Nowhere does Schapelle make any such statement. She says she smelt the pot and thats it. This therefore is a totally incorrect statement. Yet again. Not only can you not admit it but you have to insult me because I pointed it out.

So when you find the source of your information that is going to back up your claims that Schapelle's mother said the Bali police planted the pot in Schapelle's baggage you let me know ok. Make sure you present it with the source of the information that quotes Schapelle as saying people in her immediate vinicity also smelt the pot.

You cant just quote people as having said or done things they never said or done.


Your Assumption that because the government didnt respond directly to his claims means they though the drugs came from Bali is yet another of your wild and almost laughable links between fact and fiction.

These are your assumptions djwolf and your theories only. They all belong to you.


Dont insult me djwolf. Murrays article said absolutely nothing about Rose suggesting the Bali Police had planted the pot in Schapelles baggage. NOTHING

You have made it real easy for me now. Seeing as you are going to insult me and insult my level of support for Schapelle then you can enjoy your first 7 point infraction.



Your typo does not change the meaning of what you said in any substantial way whatsoever. The essence of what you said remains the same. Here is your original quote.
Because no loose marijuana had fallen thru the cut in the bag we can say for sure that the cut was made in Bali can we? Only in your world are such assumptions possible. At every level of your argument you grab a situation and mold it to suit your theory.

I am not interested in working with you on any level.

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Murray

Yes. I mentioned before I found the article that I wasn't sure if Ros had implicated police. I was sure she had said she thought the MJ came from Indonesia. Not too bad for my 14 month old memory there. I may have read more articles about this at the time too. I'll see what comes up.

Murray

However I read Rosleighs statement, her word 'because' leaps out;To me, she's not saying anything about the Bali Police planting it in that statement, but she is saying the Police know where it comes from [Indonesia] and because of that, they are keeping it a secret.

admin

Right. So there is no statment at all that says the Bali Police planted the pot.

Not surprised.

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Murray

Definitley not in the article I found. I'll keep snooping around over the weeks. But thinking about it now, I wouldn't be surprised if Roseleigh had not said that, had not gone that final step to be quoted anywhere saying '...and it was also the Bali police who planted the stuff'.

Even after what she has said which already implicates the Bali police in a cover-up. Maybe Ros didn't believe they planted it. But she believes the Bali police covered up where the MJ came from, [Indonesia], and she believes they denied her daughter a defence by not allowing the defence a right to DNA test the origin of the MJ too.

Catch 22

admin

And that is my point right there. She never actually said it and I dotn believe she has ever even implied it. She has continaully claimed there has been massive problems in both countrys regarding the handling of her daughters case. What about all the problems here in brisbane? No cctv footage, no guard dogs on duty and no xray machines!!! Why dont we hear djwolf claiming this is all part of his giant conspiracy theory? Those three poinjts I just raised are far greater cause for doubt than anything that has happened in indonesia I can tell you right now.



What? Now you are doing what wolfboy does. She believes the pot MAY come from Indonesia. *MAY* You write it like it is fact though. The corby family do *not* know for certain where the pot came from. For every snippet of an article that you show me where Ros even vaguely implies the pot came from Indonesia I will show you 10 that suggests she said it came from here. She certainly says her daughters defence has been denied at many stages but she has never publically said she thinks the bali police planted the drugs or for certain it originated in indonesia.

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Murray

Yea I re-read my post and it's too messy with conjecture.
So my Take 2 -

If Ros has not said she believed the MJ was planted by Bali Police, I could understand why, it's a hot potatoe for a family member to say.

Publicly Ros says the MJ came from Indonesia and that the Bali Police didn't want DNA testing done because the Police also knew it came from Indonesia. This allegation of hers from 'The Australian' was taken from a television interview Ros did on Channel 10.

This means the Bali Police knew where the MJ came from then covered that fact up - by deliberately denying Schapelle's team the right to test for origin.

What else have the Bali Police been illegally covering up in this case?
Why did the Bali Police deny the marijuana-origin testing?
What do they care that the MJ came from Indonesia?
I'm sick of conjecture too.

Zebedee

Admin you should have made it 20. I found this in less than a minute ...

Corby's mother, Rosleigh Rose, told reporters in Australia yesterday
she feared the Australian authorities did not want the review to
succeed, because "they know someone is responsible for what happened
to Schapelle, and the federal police are covering it up, about the
corruption at the airports".

The Australian Sat Aug 12th 2006

Course if you have a THEORY you could argue she doesn't actually specify Australian Airports, but I think you'd be pulling a very long bow and there's been enough of those recently.

There's been a few other things pulled too.

Murray

Corby mother considers legal action [originally posted Feb 1, 2006]

SCHAPELLE Corby's mother yesterday slammed as "total lies" damaging new claims linking her family to the drug trade, and said she was considering legal action.

Rosleigh Rose returned from visiting her jailed daughter in Bali on Monday night, only to walk into a fresh media storm concerning her ex-husband and still close friend Michael Corby.
Mr Corby has been linked to a central Queensland man charged recently over a large-scale hydroponic marijuana growing operation.

Police raided the man's Gladstone property - next to one owned by Mr Corby - in September 2004, a month before Schapelle Corby was arrested in Bali with 4.1kg of marijuana in her bodyboard bag.

Mr Corby and the man, known only as Tony, were also friends, neighbours and workmates in the central Queensland mining town of Middlemount.

Mr Corby, who was fined for marijuana possession in the 1970s, later followed Tony 500km to Gladstone and purchased an adjoining property.

The association was revealed by the ABC's 7.30 Report, which also claimed Schapelle Corby's Balinese lawyers had rejected an Australian Federal Police offer to DNA-test the marijuana found in the bodyboard bag to determine the drug's origin.
Ms Rose said she and her family were furious at the latest allegations, which come two weeks after the arrest of her son James Kisina over a violent drug-related home invasion.

Police alleged Kisina was suspected of involvement in his half-sister's Bali drug run.

"I've just had a gutful of people telling lies about us," Ms Rose said yesterday at her home at Loganlea, south of Brisbane.

"I just feel sick. I'm sick of all the lies and I'm going to get legal action (sic) this time."

Ms Rose said her ex-husband, who was still in Bali, was in "disbelief" about the latest claims concerning the family.

She said he had not lived at the Gladstone property for more than two years after moving to the Gold Coast for cancer treatment.

"Of course he wouldn't be involved in that bloody stuff (marijuana cultivation)," she said.

"If my neighbours are growing dope, does that mean I am too? That I'm a drug person? It (Tony's drug charges) has got nothing to do with us."

Ms Rose said her family and legal team had pushed for the marijuana found in her daughter's bodyboard bag to be tested but the Indonesian Government had refused.

"We were pushing to get it done because we were positive the marijuana came from Indonesia," she said.

"There's been no investigation done (about the drugs' origin) whatsoever."

Earlier this month, Schapelle Corby had her 20-year jail sentence for drug smuggling reinstated after it had been reduced to 15 years on appeal.

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