PTA Discussion On Radio

Murray · 03-22-2007, 03:30 AM

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http://www.abc.net.au/rn/australiata...07/1876461.htm

Indonesia and Australia are on the verge of sealing a prisoner repatriation treaty - but do 'high-profile' Australian prisoners like Schapelle Corby actually want to return to an Australian jail? Will there be implications for other Australians serving prison sentences overseas?

ABC radio interview link with:

Guests
Dr. Tim Lindsey
Director, Asian Law Centre, University of Melbourne

Kay Danes
Former Prisoner in Laos, now a family advocate at the Foreign Prisoners Support Service, Brisbane

Professor Adrian Vickers
Department of South East Asian Studies, University of Sydney

Debbie Singh
Sister of John Doran, first Australian to be transferred under the Thai-Australia Prisoner Repatriation Treaty
Further Information
Foreign Prisoners Support Service
Publications
Title: You Will Never Walk Alone
Author: Debbie Singh

Title: Nightmare in Laos - True story of a woman imprisoned in a communist prison
Author: Kay Danes

Presenter
Paul Barclay

Story Researcher and Producer
Muditha Dias

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/australiata...07/1876461.htm

admin · 03-22-2007, 09:16 AM

Kay Danes -

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wait for the treaty to be signed and see what the details are

I wonder if this was the situation when she was in prison would she be so lax.

I couldnt listen to anymore.

Dont let anyone tell you a PTA is going to do anything for Schapelle or any of the Bali 9. This thing is going to get drawn out for years and in the end Schapelle will still be sitting in prison in Indonesia. I have no doubt it is very complex but I also have no doubt that more could be being done to specifically help Schapelle.

Murray · 03-23-2007, 12:46 AM

Admin wrote:

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Dont let anyone tell you a PTA is going to do anything for Schapelle or any of the Bali 9. This thing is going to get drawn out for years and in the end Schapelle will still be sitting in prison in Indonesia.

I agree. And for Schapelle it may not be the best option.
She will have to serve half of her sentence for a start.
Yet the Indonesian 'Conditional Release' can be applied
for by a prisoner over there after two-thirds of a sentence is served...
And if granted... she walks free then and there.

Other countries have sweeter repatriation deals with Indonesia than us.

Anyway, Kay Danes decided the interview didn't adress enough issues
and she has written to the Attorney General, Philip Ruddock.
Here are the questions she wants the AG to answer.
Used with permission.

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1. It has been suggested that the Indonesian-Oz treaty will involve prisoners serving a minimum half term prior to making application for transfer under the PTA scheme. If this is true, then why was it not possible to negotiate similar terms to the PTA between Thailand and Australia which requires a prisoner to serve 1/3rd their sentence prior to making application; or as with the HK agreement?

2. Will Indonesia allow remissions and a form of parole [conditional release]? If so, what form will this be in?

3. With regard to parole, if an Australian is released in Indonesia but still subject to parole conditions, can they apply to transfer back to Australia to undertake those parole requirements? I seem to recall that they can under the International Prisoners Transfer Scheme.

4. Will Australians serving life sentences in Indonesia be included in the PTA? Will their life sentence in Australia mean 'life' or would it equate to 25 years under Australian law?

5. I would also be highly interested to know the AG's view on prisoners who do not receive a fair trial in a foreign state, and if there is any legal challenge they might pursue when all legal challenges have been exhausted in Indonesia?

6. How should Australian citizens oppose the death penalty for the Australians in Bali, so as not to offend the Indonesian government? Is it simply by writing letters to Indonesia and is this effective in any way?

admin · 03-24-2007, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Murray

Admin wrote:

I agree. And for Schapelle it may not be the best option.
She will have to serve half of her sentence for a start.
Yet the Indonesian 'Conditional Release' can be applied
for by a prisoner over there after two-thirds of a sentence is served...
And if granted... she walks free then and there.

Other countries have sweeter repatriation deals with Indonesia than us.

Anyway, Kay Danes decided the interview didn't adress enough issues
and she has written to the Attorney General, Philip Ruddock.
Here are the questions she wants the AG to answer.
Used with permission.

I heard the rest of the interview later that night. Not impressed at all.

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